Well click here to see the speech Mike Douglas made in Wall Street about this.

Mike_douglas If the link does not work just go to YouTube and put in Mike Douglass Greed Speech Wall Street.

I responded in the thread to Jerry’s question about why people make loans to poor credit risks and why people borrow such money, here is my reply.

First you have to remember that our buyer is an unsophisticated person with no understanding of the I = P x R x T thing. They never calculated what this was going to cost or the probability they could pay for it anyway. And they are assured this is better than renting, after all they are told it will build equity, why throw away money on rent goes the pitch.
In fact a thity year note will not grow equity for years even if prices remain stable, which of course they did not.
Next people are prisoners of what is happening now and what has just happened, not what happened in 1981 or 1931. So they make long term decisions on short term information, gee rates are going down of COURSE I want an adjustable rate loan, hey it will get easier not harder to make the payments.
Realize that most car ads are quoted in monthly payments with no reference to the total number of months.

And remember this is a person that probably never expected to OWN a home anyway, he or she expected to rent for their entire life. They have to be talked into this deal and that is part of the pitch.

Now as for Snerdly the Shark, why would the lender loand to people that he knows may not be able to pay.

Actually the lender does not intend to hold the loan anyway, it’s not HIS problem long term. Think thru this.

The bulder builds the home.
A captive realtor employed by the lender sells the home out of the model home in the new subdivision. The realtor ‘qualifies’ the buyer.
The loan is submitted to a national finance company. It is approved.
The loan is then re packaged, and re sold. Actually the only thing that concerns the realtor is whether the buyer has to pay points, a percentage of the required to qualify for a lower payment. The fewer the points the easier the sale as the buyer does not have to come up with more cash.
But I digress, now the original lender has made a percentage for originating the loan and certainly has charged whatever fees he can get away with. He then re sells the loan into a govt guaranteed package to GNMA or MER or Bear Stearns. MER or
Bear then re package the loans for different reasons as explained above. They pay themselves handsomely for doing this in the form of underwriting fees as they securitize the loans to their clients, otherwise known in the trade as sheep or pigeons depending on your part of the country.
Mr. Pigeon buys the loans cleverly re packaged as something like
Securitized Equity Fund III for Income Investors

sounds safe enough for little old ladies, right!

Now of course notice that

The builder got paid
The realtor got paid
The appraiser who bids the values ever higher got paid and notice this, hired again, why, because the higer the home value the greater the mortgage and the more our mortgage loan officer makes for his/her one quarter percent for originating the loan, ain’t we The Donald now!
The underwriters who repackaged the loans made underwriting and origination fees, and oh, commissions for selling them to their sheep, er, clients, sorry….

So everyone is making money, darn this real estate thing is great! And so the builders keep it up until only the very very worst credit risks have been reigned in, then when rates are as low as they can go and investors, the smart ones, start smelling risk, the rates start up.

Then the game of Wall St Muscial Chairs begins, last one standing has to collect on those bad loans she is holding.
Poor credit risks cannot pay, the mortgages cannot re pay the money due the buyers of the short term commercial paper that financed te mortgage pools, and gee we have an impairment problem.

Of course if you saw this coming and sold all your houses or mortgages to that greater fool who is always out there, well, we can party in Cancun or Cabo can’t we?

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5 responses to “Why Make Risky Loans?”

  1. Kelly Clark Avatar
    Kelly Clark

    I think this speech is a true today as it was when the movie came out in the 80’s. Former CEO O’Neal of MER just got greedy. I would have thought that they could have had some kind of internal control set in place that would not have allowed them to take such a huge write down or that would have better estimated their write down to begin with.
    I have a friend that is prime example of who these lenders are lending to. Her and her husban, barely making ends meet. Car payments really to much for them to afford, new baby, credit rocky, etc. They were able to by a brand new house, no money down and a year later are already one house payment behind and going through a divorce. They cannot sell the house because, someone can go around the corner and buy a brand new house for the same price that they are asking for theirs. I started seeing a problem with people being able to get credit back in the 90’s when I was freshman in college, no job and was still able to get a credit card without my parents co-signing it for me. How do these loan and credit card companies expect you to pay your bill when you don’t really make the money to actually qualify for this type of credit.
    Like Michael Douglas said in the movie – there is a need for greed in corporate america.

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  2. Rene Razo Avatar
    Rene Razo

    Seems to me like I recall before the sub prime melt down that any investment indictions on anything having to do with the real estate market would have been considered a good investment. The real estate investments market had been performing good for the past 10 years. So, yeah people got greedy and wanted more return on their investments and I guess missed the risk factor. Today I see that all market indicators show a slowdown in real estate market as a whole. Now you here all these investors saying the sub prime market is a risky market but, 2 years ago I recall a different tune. Back then most investors believed the real estate market was a solid investment. Now all things come to an end sooner or later.

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  3. Rene Razo Avatar
    Rene Razo

    Seems to me like I recall before the sub prime melt down that any investment indictions on anything having to do with the real estate market would have been considered a good investment. The real estate investments market had been performing good for the past 10 years. So, yeah people got greedy and wanted more return on their investments and I guess missed the risk factor. Today I see that all market indicators show a slowdown in real estate market as a whole. Now you here all these investors saying the sub prime market is a risky market but, 2 years ago I recall a different tune. Back then most investors believed the real estate market was a solid investment. Now all things come to an end sooner or later.

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  4. Dennis Elam Avatar

    About the time ‘ezxperts’ say the business cycle has been repealed, it returns with a venegance, the dot.coms and the real estate bust and the failure of high tech to amount to what was promised were all examples.

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  5. Jerry Avatar
    Jerry

    In fact my brother lives in high-end sub division that went up in the boom and after a visit last week I saw first hand about 5-6 homes abandoned with a for sale sign in the yard on his block alone.
    Jerry

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